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Oliver Klingefjord's avatar

Feel like the Waymo vs Uber is a bit of a strawman; for many types of relational labor the "human authenticity" is deeply constitutive of the thing. A robot tantra workshop is not just a slightly worse tantra workshop, it's not a tantra workshop at all.

To be silly for a minute, imagine everyone choosing between a future populated with other humans, and one where they are the only human. Obviously the former is preferred by everyone except some lunatic.

Think a lot of what's driving the revealed preference for digital substitutes is not so much a deep truth about what humans prefer but the way experience goods are priced (before the moment of consumption), meaning you can sell people a sawdust version of "adventure" or "connection" and convince them it's what they really wanted with advertising, and price out the real deal. And then people learn to prefer it, as per Elster's "sour grapes".

We're working on ways to price experience goods on outcomes at MAI (https://meaningalignment.substack.com/p/market-intermediaries-a-post-agi).

Andy G's avatar

“Second, the labor share could stay non-negligible only because of a few top, say, entertainers, so that wages as a share of GDP fall indefinitely, as in a standard model of full automation, once these few are excluded.”

Well, if nothing else, you leave out sex-workers. That would not be just a few who you can meaningfully simply exclude.

And it’s not at all obvious that the number of “influencers” whom people trust and want to be in the physical presence of (some of the time) would be limited to just a few. But perhaps you’ll still say these entertainers collectively are a tiny number.

But human coaches / teachers (even if most are good because they best know how to leverage technology) are likely to be in demand, especially by parents for their children.

Physical therapists.

Human game shows with actual human participants.

None of this is to disagree with your assertion that the human labor share unlikely to go to 1, nor even to disagree that it is much more likely to go down significantly, but the idea that it goes to an extremely low level does not seem inevitable.

“Even in a perfect world, where everyone was equal, I’d still own the film rights and be working on the sequel” — Elvis Costello, “Every Day I Write The Book”

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